Is it feasible to build a bonded aluminum frame?

I’m shocked at all of the knowledge in this thread and all of the resources people are linking to. Just curious, anybody remember what alloy Trek was using for those frames? Coincidentally, my first road bike was a used Trek 1200, which I believe was of that construction.

On paper, 7075 aluminum should be able to produce some of the lightest frames ever made, if only one figures out a reasonable way to join it up, no? More tensile strength → thinner tubes → less weight?

Linked below is a company claiming they have a 7075-based 3D printing powder

https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/nasa-becomes-first-customer-of-hrl-high-strength-aluminum-3d-printing-powder-163530/

I believe they were using 6061T6 from ALCOA but I got rid of my terrible 1100 years ago. The frames have stickers calling out the alloy.

http://www.vintage-trek.com/images/trek/85Trek2000a.pdf

Here a link to an old catalog. They’re calling it True Temper T2 aluminum. Whatever that is.

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From here

Sharing a couple more resources because this idea has piqued my interest. The first is a history of the Vitus 979 development, and the second is some more Trek ad material, showing a small graphic detail of their tapered lug design (similar to Vitus?) and the fact that for some models they appear to have used 7178 series tubes. It raises a couple of questions for me:

1: What was the thinking behind making the lugs a tapered-wedge fit into the tubes? Bond adhesion?
2: If Trek and Vitus were casting their lugs, presumably with alloys similar to the AlSi10Mg we can 3D print with today, then it seems like a durable printed lug should be feasible?

Figuring a fatigue life of 3 years, at which point Scamalloy hits the mass market and we can order Filippo Ganna’s hour record bike from Shapeways :laughing:

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Maybe the lug interface is tapered to avoid a stress riser at the end of the socket?

That video is pretty cool!