Hi! I’m looking for a little insight on the process of selling and shipping bikes to international customers. Any tips, or advise on this would be much appreciated! I know each country does this differently, but I am currently trying to navigate this for a couple potential customers in Europe, and more specifically Germany. Thanks for the help in advance!
Is this purchasing and shipping from the US to Germany? And what are you shipping, parts or entire bikes?
It would be shipping from the US to Germany and would be either a frame or complete bike.
We use both FedEx and DHL for shipping. FedEx is expensive but DHL is more expensive. Shipping charges are based on weight of the shipment, value of the package, and destination. Both shipways have easy to follow online shipping process. You will need to state: country of origin and harmonize code. You can see this information on top of every PMW online order sales receipt, “Bicycle Frame Building Components Manufactured in the USA Harmonized Code: 8714.91.9000”. As for importer charges, it’s usually the importer’s responsibility to cover that with their government’s import offices. There are estimated tax calculators online, if you’re interested. Always get shipping insurance.
I’m sure other framebuilders here who shipped from the US have other tidbits, including @Carl_Snarl and @BikeFabSupply
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ooh, I think there’s a different harmonize code for a complete bike. I gave you the one for bike parts. You’ll have to check the internet for that one. The code does matter because the taxes/fees are partly based on it.
Thanks for the info Coco! This is very helpful to get me started.
I believe @Neuhaus_Metalworks shipped one to a customer in Europe. I remember it being very expensive…
From a broader perspective, I find it so annoying that different countries make it so hard to get interact with each other. We just want to ride bikes!
Cyprus, that was a little over a year ago and it cost $1800 to ship. I’m not sure what the destination fees were. If you ship with BikeFlights they charge all of the fees up front which can save the customer from getting an undesirable surprise but they also refuse to adjust the fees if the destination country has a trade agreement with the US for domestically made products.
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You can go through shipstation if you have a PayPal account. It’s very cheap, but there is zero customer service whatsoever so if there’s a problem or damage it can be a pain to resolve.
-Walt
I am shipping bikes from Switzerland to the US sometimes. I remove the fork and wheels and for a touring bike it’s around 300-500 USD.
But minimum twice a year I do fly to the US and take 2 bikes with me. From the US I use Fedex to send it to the final address of the customer. Sometimes I meet them too. Always I bring PMW parts back 
Last autum I visited Phily Bike show and brought one bike with me and back the Stay Slayer from Joe.
I always compare prices with
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One hot tip I learned the hard way after UPS all but vaporized a bike heading international:
Take pictures of EVERYTHING that is going in the box immediately before, during, and after packing. Take pictures of the item packed securely in the box. Take pictures of the box from all angles. Keep all these photos until the box is delivered and confirmed as all fine and dandy.
Basically, if something ever happens in transit, you need enough to prove that it wasn’t already like that when it went in the box. 
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THIS!!! As the shipper, you have to file the claim and prove the transit company was at fault, even if you did purchase protection/insurance.
Hi all,
Anyone here from ASEAN/SEA country and have experience shipping a frame set/full bike to EU/US/UK?
Im from Indonesia and try to expand my market. After checking with local DHL express and Indonesian Postal (EMS) is very expensive to CA/UK around 500-650USD, FedEx even worse at +1000 USD. All of the prospective buyer bailed out due to that cost. For context my avg frame set about 1000-1500USD comes with 98x54x30cm double wall corrugated box
So, is there any workaround that worth to try for my case? I assumed it caused by my 3rd world country 
Thanks
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Not just a 3rd world/SEA problem. I ship frames between Australia and Europe and also between Australia a North America and have paid up to US$450 for a single shipment. Hell it almost cost that much to send a frame from AU to NZ these days. DHL is usually the cheapest but they can be pretty rough and are terrible with warranties. Max $250 is all I’ve even gotten back even for a box that look like it had been towed behind the plane.
I think the days of cheap air freight are long gone (and I actually think that’s mostly a good thing). Even though I have an account with FedEx and DHL I find that if I go through a broker (I use TransglobalExpress in the UK), I can get significantly cheaper pricing than on my account even if the shipper is the same. I guess my volume doesn’t get me particularly cheap rates with the carrier if I go direct.
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From Portugal, I have shipped all over Europe and Overseas. We now work mainly with batches but still some custom frames.
Within Europe, freight carrier works well. Have shipped with DHL, FEDEX and DACHSER (ADR shipping for e-bikes). Overseas, I prefer to ship with regular registered post. The difference is that Carriers use volumetric weight but Registered Post uses real weight as long the box fit within authorized dimensions.
Specific shipments with freight forwarders and Air Cargo work well but in the end bureaucracy is huge.
Most of the clients don’t have a clear idea about the costs on shipping such a large box and implied tariffs. In the end, the benefit of going to a local builder is great…
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