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Questions for the group; I see many folks online, Insta, etc. that do a fusion pass and then a filler pass. Why make two passes? Why not just do the filler pass first and call it good? Is the fusion pass necessary?

I have been welding at work quite a lot and we don’t ever do fusion passes if we can avoid it. Granted it’s not bicycle tubing (usually 18 gauge sheet metal), but it got me thinking.

Thanks.

Brandon

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I’ve only see that done in Ti. Is that the material you’re talking about?

TIG welding with silica bronze is a lot of fun. I’ve done a lot of it, though never in bicycle frames…

I know this a very old post and probably nobody is much interested any more, but I just joined and am on my way to scrolling to the bottom :slight_smile:

TIG brazing probably is strong enough in fact. The UTS of the filler rod is only slightly less than mild steel but you have a thicker fillet. I have tried destruction-testing it on test pieces and it is very nearly as strong as a weld. However I still don’t use it on the main joints of the frame, just in case, and because there’s no reason to.

I do however use it for bridge tubes, because my priority there is not to compromise the tube I’m joining to. Again welding is absolutely fine, but you’re putting a bit less heat in if you braze these. I also use it for attaching bottle bosses and cable guides etc. Most people silver solder those I know but I use the TIG for everything.

I have also used it on a couple of “raw finish” frames on top of a regular TIG weld for a fake fillet-brazed look.

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